id summary reporter owner description type status priority milestone component resolution keywords cc fix_version see_also 137 system-wide bash_login and login should not unconditionally punt zwgc on dialups jdreed broder "/usr/athena/lib/init/login and bash_login refuse to set ZEPHYR_CLIENT if /etc/athena/dialuptype exists. I'm told that this was done on purpose because Linerva maintainers do not think users want to be running zwgc by default in X forwarded ssh sessions. This is not a decision we should be making for users. If I log into Linerva over a tty session from somewhere, I want zwgc. I expect it to run at startup like every single other Athena machine. The message it displays is not useful for people whose .startup.tty generates a fair bit of output, as mine does (if I have more, say, 20 new mails in my INBOX, then the message about zwgc has scrolled off the screen) We should conditionalize this on whether or not someone has ""fallback = true"" in .zephyr.vars. If they have set this, they expect zwgc to be running on dialups by default, and thus will not be surprised by getting multiple zephyrgrams in X forwarding SSH session. If they have not set this, then either they run zwgc -ttymode by in .startup.tty (which will still work), or they don't expect zephyr to be running by default on dialups. It's still a change from the default behavior, and should be documented, but is better than punting zwgc unconditionally." defect closed normal -- fixed proposed